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Porsche Boxster | 1997-2004 • 986 chassis

The Boxster was created to fill a particular area of interest: an open, comparatively cheap Porsche aimed on the fanatic. Name it a substitute for the 911.

This mannequin represented an enormous success for the model–its prime vendor from its debut for the 1997 mannequin 12 months by the 2003 launch of the Cayenne SUV. The Boxster seemed nice, delivered terrific efficiency, and didn’t ask for too many sacrifices in return. It supplied loads of cargo area and, with the highest up, a quiet, comfy inside.

Right this moment, all of that also holds true. 

However there’s a catch: Costs on the first-generation vehicles have bottomed out. “They’re not going to be going any decrease,” says Charles L. Navarro of LN Engineering, a agency lengthy concerned with Porsche engines.

“I’ve a ’99 Boxster,” Navarro continues. “I don’t assume I’ve come throughout something I haven’t been capable of buy for it.”

Plus, the automobile has proved dependable: “It has over 100,000 miles on it. It’s been tracked. I haven’t had a single factor break. A Boxster is one thing I might really feel comfy with even my mother and father shopping for.”

However what about a difficulty that rapidly comes up in discussions about these early Boxsters: the intermediate shaft bearing? The place the one discovered within the earlier, air-cooled Porsche engines receives a continuing provide of engine oil, the IMS bearing present in these first-generation Boxsters is “sealed for all times.” 

Nevertheless, that bearing’s life isn’t at all times infinite. And when it fails, the particles can take the remainder of the engine with it. 

Fortuitously, options exist. The primary is a higher-quality substitute IMS bearing from an organization like LN Engineering–plan to interchange it each six years or so. Or there’s LN Engineering’s fashionable IMS Answer, which mainly backdates the Boxster engine to an oil-fed bearing. This setup doesn’t want any routine upkeep.  

The opposite massive query: normal Boxster or the extra highly effective Boxster S? The common automobile got here first, providing 201 horsepower from its 2.5-liter engine; for 2000, Porsche elevated displacement to 2.7 liters.

The opposite massive information for 2000 was the discharge of the Boxster S: Its 3.2-liter engine supplied 250 horsepower, whereas the package deal additionally added greater brakes, extra engine cooling and a six-speed transmission.

Boxster Skilled Suggestions
Charles L. Navarro
LN Engineering

• Many of the vehicles you discover on the market have had an IMS Retrofit or IMS Answer accomplished. We do keep a database for installations (imsretrofit.com/ims-check), however solely a really small proportion of individuals really register their IMS Retrofit and IMS Answer installations.
• We additionally provide a serial quantity sticker that needs to be on the automobile to establish that the automobile has had the IMS bearing changed.
• Some individuals assume that if the automobile reaches a sure mileage, that it’s not going to fail–and that’s not true. The IMS bearing is a put on merchandise. Crucial factor to reiterate is that the IMS problem is well resolved by changing the IMS bearing and that it’s a common service merchandise, except for the IMS Answer that backdates the engine to an oil-fed, plain IMS bearing like in a Porsche Mezger engine.
• The most important problem with later Porsches, at the moment, is bore scoring. However with early Boxsters, you don’t have to fret about it in any respect–so long as you’ve accomplished the IMS, put a brand new water pump on it, and checked for any vacuum leaks. 
• There’s a lot of plastic tubing on the engine, and people get actually brittle. If somebody goes to work on the engine and goes to alter the starter, an alternator, and so they bump the plastic tubing, it would find yourself cracking and inflicting a vacuum leak.
• These vehicles are good at adjusting the gas trims with out throwing a check-engine gentle, so it would slowly wash down the cylinder bores and trigger accelerated put on. So we’re advising that individuals smoke-test the engine.
• And the final, actually massive problem that we have been seeing is injectors going dangerous. The injectors may have poor gas spray, however the worst downside is that the injectors will leak. It is going to dribble gas into the bore, and also you’ll have a giant puddle of gas, and that can wipe out the cylinder bores and also you’ll have quite a lot of put on. Test the gas trim knowledge. 
• The great factor is that injectors are comparatively low cost. The most important problem that you’ve is counterfeits, so it’s a must to purchase them from a good supply. 
• They’re very dependable vehicles when you care for the preventative upkeep. You’re higher off shopping for one of the best automobile you’ll be able to afford and setting apart the 5000 or 6000 {dollars}. Then the automobile needs to be good for an additional 5, six years.
• For me, if the inside is trashed, that may disqualify it. They made so many of those vehicles.
• If in case you have a pre-purchase inspection accomplished, that’s most likely a good suggestion–as with every Porsche.
• Vehicles that don’t get pushed and have sat a very long time aren’t one of the best vehicles to buy.
• In case you don’t placed on loopy tires, you’ll be able to put a deep oil sump on the automobile and you’ll monitor it.
• You don’t need to placed on a big-brake equipment.
• There was an M030 suspension package deal supplied, and I’d placed on that.
• The knobs on the radio flip into gummy bears.
• Porsche put foam insulation within the air ducts and it begins degrading.

Porsche 911 | 1974-’89 • G-Sequence

The unique, air-cooled Porsche 911 stays an icon almost 60 years after its introduction. Steve McQueen drove one on the streets, and plenty of motorsports legends piloted one on monitor.

It’s the machine that so many need, and the market has responded with brutal honesty: You need a good, early automobile? High-quality, simply funds six figures.

However what about the remainder of us who crave the scent of oil wafting by the cockpit? Look later–particularly on the 1974-’89 vehicles collectively often known as the G-series. Costs will differ relying on 12 months, situation, physique model and even shade, however determine we’re speaking new-minivan cash. 

The darlings of that group have been the 1978-’83 911 SC and 1984-’89 911 Carrera fashions. These are those that launched the aluminum engine case and excellent quantity of fender flare to the usual 911 mannequin line. A full convertible joined the coupe and Targa fashions in 1983.

The most important distinction between the 2 fashions facilities across the engine. The SC obtained a 3.0-liter engine fed by Bosch CIS injection, whereas Porsche gave the Carrera a 3.2 paired with the extra superior Bosch Motronic injection. In spherical numbers, determine about 172 to 180 horsepower for an SC and 200 to 214 for a Carrera. 

“Don’t overlook the 1974-’77 vehicles,” provides Per Schroeder, advertising and marketing supervisor at Stoddard, a longtime Porsche elements home. “They usually have lagged behind the sooner and later vehicles in value due to points with the two.7-liter and prehistoric early smog controls. 

“By now, the top and case stud points have usually been mounted and the vehicles are all sufficiently old to be de-smogged legally. These early G-body vehicles have the slim flanks of the long-hoods whereas additionally having simpler 5 mph bumpers, making them easy classics that may additionally stand day-to-day day by day driving in site visitors.”

A whole lot of these G-series vehicles have survived the years, which means if there’s a draw back, it’s that the hunt may take some time. “There aren’t any stinkers within the bunch right here, so I might advocate discovering the nicest one yow will discover for the funds,” Schroeder continues. “The issue is that the marketplace for SCs and Carreras has gone nuts over the previous 5 years because the older long-hood vehicles have topped out. The short-hoods, and particularly the SCs and Carreras, have a lot of the identical really feel with the advantages of extra trendy reliability and usefulness.”

G-Sequence 911 Skilled Suggestions
Per Schroeder
Stoddard 

• Drive each an SC and a 3.2, and also you’ll see there’s a substantial distinction in how the smaller SC motor revs simply however lacks the off-the-line grunt of a 3.2. The Carrera 3.2 is far more tractable and feels far more trendy by way of the way it drives in site visitors, with no flat spots within the torque curve. The Bosch Motronic injection is healthier at nearly every thing than CIS.  
• I want the Carreras and significantly the 1987-’89 years with the later, extra sturdy G50 transmission, however situation would rule over any particular 12 months.  
• These vehicles don’t usually rust all that badly relative to the sooner ones, but it surely nonetheless generally is a consideration. Search for rust above the battery within the entrance trunk–if it’s current, meaning the bumper tube help is rusted out. This could occur in northern climates the place salt is used. I’d additionally test the again of the entrance fenders in addition to the underside of the door striker panel, the place the quarter panel meets the seam of the rocker panel.  
• One different problem is the motor. Be sure to get a PPI–or on the very least, a leak-down check–to see how wholesome the flat-six is. Whereas a Porsche 911 motor can final properly over 100,000 miles with out problem, that assumes common utilization and upkeep over these miles. Vehicles that sit or haven’t been correctly fed can have points a lot sooner.  
• After about 1984 or so, there was a construct sticker connected to the underside of the hood–typically yow will discover these within the glove field, too–that can present the choices. 
• They have been out there in all kinds of colours within the Seventies and you might get some wild colours later, however by the ’80s, it was just about a black, white or pink world for Porsche. Authentic paint-to-sample vehicles can fetch a substantial premium over your primary Guards Crimson.
• Possibility-wise, a automobile with no sunroof, a limited-slip differential (M220) and sport seats can be the choose of the litter, however these are fairly laborious to search out and entice quite a lot of curiosity.  
• In case you aren’t involved about taking it to the monitor or having a particular autocross automobile, the Targa is simply high-quality and makes for a really nice backroad companion with the highest off.  The Cabriolet?  Eh, I’d go–it loses all the bank-vault really feel of an everyday 911 whereas additionally having spectacularly dangerous rearward visibility. 
• Within the collector world, inventory is finest, so the additional a possible undertaking is from inventory, the more severe off you might be.  
• Now that these vehicles are older, lots of the earlier preliminary reliability points have been solved a minimum of a few times by earlier house owners.  
• These aren’t vehicles to be babied.  They have been meant to be day by day drivers that love the freeway. And with that utilization comes put on. Along with typical put on objects like wheel bearings, shocks and brakes, there are some 911-specific issues, just like the pedal cluster and the shift linkage. Each are susceptible to put on and might bitter the driving expertise. Flip sign and headlight switches also can put on out–and be careful for corrosion on the fuses and fuse field. Fashionable blade-type substitute packing containers can be found.
• For the reason that 911 has at all times been an fanatic automobile, the elements provide is wonderful. You’ll find absolutely anything you want for all of them, a lot of it nonetheless being produced by Porsche Basic in Germany. There are, in fact, aftermarket distributors that provide enhancements and restoration bits. We at Stoddard have seen an enormous enhance in trim and inside restoration half gross sales as house owners are restoring them to the identical concours degree as the sooner 356s.  
• In case you ever promote one, you’ll remorse it.

Porsche 911 | 2006-’12 •997 Chassis

Leaning towards a contemporary, water-cooled 911? How a few 997-chassis automobile? 

Rob Sass calls it immediately’s candy spot in that class. Sass, who serves as editor of Panorama, the Porsche Membership of America’s publication, is himself an proprietor of each 996 and 997 fashions. And whereas 997 costs rapidly depreciated after the mannequin’s debut–as they’ve with so many different luxurious vehicles–they didn’t keep depressed for lengthy and are ticking upward. 

“They’re great vehicles,” Sass notes. “The 997 is undeniably an attractive automobile.”

The 997 adopted the 996, the primary water-cooled 911, however there’s a bit to navigate right here. Nonetheless, the hunt makes it extra enjoyable, proper?

The 997 made its debut for the 2005 mannequin 12 months, with the engines present in each the 911 Carrera and upmarket 911 CarreraS fashions that includes an IMS bearing setup just like the one discovered within the authentic Boxster. Right here’s the kicker: Up till partway by the 2005 mannequin 12 months, this IMS bearing could be simply serviced and changed; after that, not a lot. 

From the LN Engineering web site: “The bigger, non-serviceable bearing used within the 2006 by 2008 mannequin 12 months Porsche Boxster, Cayman, and 911 fashions is the strongest of the manufacturing unit Porsche intermediate shaft bearings, however they nonetheless can fail. Because the bearing can’t be modified with out full engine disassembly, many specialists agree that eradicating the grease seal off the IMS bearing will prolong the service lifetime of authentic bearing and is a should anytime you’ve the gearbox out to do a clutch job or substitute the rear important seal.”

The 997 obtained a significant replace for the 2009 mannequin 12 months, although. Fans refer to those later fashions because the 997.2, with the sooner vehicles referred to as the 997.1. Along with up to date styling, the 997.2 options an all-new engine: direct injection–no extra potential for bore scoring–plus no extra IMS bearing points together with the non-obligatory PDK two-pedal transmission.

However small actuality test: “They’re recession vehicles,” Sass notes. “They got here out within the fall of 2008.” Including that shrinking marketplace for luxurious items with the superior PDK transmission, he continues, means a comparatively small variety of out there vehicles immediately with a standard stick shift. 

So, which to purchase? If buying on a funds, Sass says that his choose for a 997 can be an early 2005 Carrera backed with good oil evaluation and borescope studies. “In case you observe finest practices,” he provides, “it needs to be a gasoline and oil automobile.”

997 Skilled Suggestions
Rob Sass
Porsche Club of America 

• I feel a 997.2 is the apex of water-cooled 911s.
• The 997 depreciated rapidly and is trending up already. Like quite a lot of 911s, it’s a automobile you’ll be able to drive and break even.
• It’s a matter of non-public choice: What shade would you like? What physique model would you like? Targas are having this bizarre second within the solar. In some cases, they’re bringing in extra money than coupes.
• Folks love Sport seats.
• Coloration makes a giant distinction in worth. Particularly with the .2 vehicles, the colour palette is kinda boring. However even among the browns are kinda engaging. Folks need something to face out. If in case you have a pink automobile with pink belts or a yellow automobile with yellow belts, that’s cool.
• These vehicles also can endure from bore scoring, and nobody is aware of what causes it. The specialists appear to assume it’s from injectors and spray patterns–gas washing the lubricant off the bores. I feel the injector problem is essentially the most credible one. 
• The massive factor with .2s was a light facelift–and DFI, a very completely different engine with no IMS, and PDK was non-obligatory. It’s a superb gearbox. So the take price for 2 pedals went up, which means it’s actually laborious to discover a 997 three-pedal base coupe.
• The perfect factor to do is purchase an early ’05. If the bore’s clear, substitute the IMS bearing and thoughts your injectors. Shopping for a .2 might be a safer guess. The difficulty there’s cash–and the problem to find one.
• There are many .1 vehicles working round with substitute engines. I’d avoid one which’s not a manufacturing unit substitute engine. Lemon buy-backs, I’d say completely not. There are vehicles with out Carfax questions on the market.
• I feel you’re higher off not modifying the automobile.

Porsche 944 & 944 Turbo | 1982-’92

The 924 gave Porsche a very trendy automobile for the ’70s–one that also works properly immediately–with a front-mounted, water-cooled engine powering up to date bodywork that featured flip-up headlights, ample stowage area and, in a pinch, room for 4. To assist weight distribution, Porsche match the transaxle within the rear. For the day, it was somewhat leading edge. 

However because the competitors bought sooner, the 924’s Audi engine appeared a bit anemic. So Porsche break up the tree: The 924 would proceed as a low-cost mannequin, whereas the new-for-1982 Porsche 944 would obtain a real, Porsche-designed inline-four–mainly half of the V8 discovered within the then-new 928–together with greater brakes and people all-important fender flares. The 924 finally pale away, although, with Porsche persevering with to refine the 944 into the ’90s.

The primary massive revision got here throughout 1985, when Porsche revamped the 944’s inside. Extra legroom was added due to a barely elevated steering column, and the brand new gauge cluster seemed extra Porsche 928 than VW Rabbit. 

Then, for 1986, Porsche break up the 944 lineup itself: the usual, non-turbo 944, and the non-obligatory Turbo mannequin. Along with the force-fed engine, the Turbo mannequin, internally referred to as the 951, additionally obtained revised facias–a smoother entrance bumper and a rear apron–plus stiffer suspension and bigger, 16-inch wheels. Because of its 217 horsepower–a 30% bump over the usual automobile–the Turbo may attain 152 mph. 

The 944 line continued to develop. Porsche launched the 16-valve 944 S for 1987, with the Turbo S showing for 1988: greater brakes, Koni dampers, stiffer bushings and a limited-slip differential. Porsche upped engine output to 247 horsepower, however solely supplied 1635 copies. Missed out on a Turbo S? All of these upgrades grew to become normal on the 944 Turbo the next 12 months. 

“The 951s are nonetheless an amazing bang-for-the-buck experience,” says Glenn Sager, Porsche elements specialist at Porsche elements provider Pelican Elements. “I’ve at all times cherished the 944 physique model, and the Turbo bumpers make it much more engaging. The seating place and ergonomics of every thing within the cabin work for me. It’s merely a enjoyable automobile to drive, particularly when the automobile has added horsepower.”

Earlier than 944 manufacturing wrapped up in 1991–the 968 line would take over that slot within the lineup–Porsche unveiled a couple of extra upgrades for the non-turbo vehicles. Displacement of the usual automobile elevated from 2.5 to 2.7 liters, whereas Porsche pushed the four-valve engine to three.0 liters, creating the 944 S2 within the course of. 

For years, 944 costs may finest be described as budget-friendly, however they’ve been ticking up.

944 Skilled Suggestions
Glenn Sager 
Kenny McCluney
Pelican Parts

• Whereas the Turbo mannequin has essentially the most potential for horsepower upgrades, I want the 1989-’91 S2 with the 16-valve, 3.0-liter engine–much less plumbing than a Turbo and has a smoother powerband with higher low-end torque. For funding and collectability, the TurboS mannequin most likely has essentially the most potential.
• As with every different automobile, you need to avoid vehicles which have been in an accident or have water/flood injury. I really feel with this mannequin line, it’s particularly essential to purchase the nicest automobile you’ll be able to afford and never a undertaking. A undertaking can recover from funds in a rush, and a uncared for automobile with deferred upkeep could be hassle.
• These vehicles have a contact engine. If the timing belt fails, greater than possible you’re taking a look at a whole top-end rebuild with a couple of new valves. I might recommend inspecting the timing belt at each handy alternative and changing it at 40,000-mile or five-year intervals. The water pump can be usually modified with the timing belt “whilst you’re in there.”
• From what I’ve heard from our clients, the 1986 and newer Turbos are nonetheless wanted and provide a really good expertise. With a much bigger enhance spring and chip, they will simply get one other 50 dependable horsepower from the automobile. So far as upkeep, they aren’t a lot completely different than the usual eight-valve 944.
• The dashboards are susceptible to cracking. That’s not solely an eyesore however an costly piece to R&R and restore. 
• A 944 that runs scorching and overheats commonly is one which I might avoid.
• The vehicles from 1983 by January 1985 appeared to have extra timing belt points than the February 1985-and-later mannequin 944s.
• The automatics are pathetically gradual, and elements could be laborious to come back by. The damper plate involves thoughts right here. The convertibles are attractive, but when the highest ever fails or the weatherstripping across the prime wants changing, you’re most likely taking a look at a couple of thousand bucks to make it good once more. If having a convertible is paramount, a Boxster can be a more sensible choice.
• Common care shouldn’t be actually any completely different from different vehicles. Brakes, tune-ups, fluid adjustments, and so on., are all issues that want doing on a standard schedule and are comparatively straightforward for the do-it-yourselfer to carry out. The primary factor that units the 944 aside from most different vehicles is the necessity to at all times be conscious of the age and mileage on the timing belt. Apart from common oil adjustments, that’s an important half in caring for the well being of the engine.
• Fortuitously, Porsche nonetheless does a reasonably respectable job of supporting these vehicles, and the aftermarket has stepped up fairly properly to fill among the gaps. However there are nonetheless some wear-and-tear elements which might be overly costly or just unavailable.
• It could be the late Bruce Anderson who stated it first with reference to shopping for any Porsche, “Purchase the most recent, nicest instance you’ll be able to afford,” and that definitely applies right here. The ’85.5-and-later vehicles have extra modern-looking instrumentation and some different good upgrades over the first-gen 944s, but when yow will discover a “survivor”–a automobile that’s simply been very well taken care of from day one, with upkeep information to show it, that drives properly and appears the half–it might most likely be an excellent purchase no matter what 12 months it’s.

Porsche Cayman | 2006-’12 • 987 chassis

Porsche redid the Boxster for the 2005 mannequin 12 months. A 12 months later, a smooth, hardtop variant joined lineup: the Cayman. 

“General, these are splendidly balanced, trendy sports activities vehicles that really feel like nothing else constructed on the time, even different Porsche vehicles,” Don Weaver of Porsche elements home EBS Racing says of the Cayman. “It’s a bonus which you could spend a day on the monitor and, when it’s time to go house, roll up the home windows, activate the chilly a/c, and crank up the Bose system.”

The upmarket Cayman S really hit the market earlier than the usual model, touchdown, pricewise, between the Boxster S and 911 Carrera. When it got here to efficiency, although, the Cayman S ran almost as rapidly because the 911.

Energy got here from a 3.4-liter flat-six tuned to ship 291 horsepower–15 greater than the lately redone Boxster S may muster. The Cayman additionally boasted a stiffer physique, and the load penalty was solely about 50 kilos. Porsche launched a normal Cayman powered by a 2.7-liter engine for 2007: much less energy, smaller brakes, but in addition a smaller price ticket. 

“In all honesty,” Weaver continues, “the S mannequin may have one of the best gear and one of the best of every thing in comparison with the bottom. It’s not that the bottom fashions are dangerous in any respect, however in case you can afford the comparatively small value distinction, you will have the ability, brakes and the potential of a six-speed handbook over the bottom automobile. Some will argue towards this, but it surely’s the overall development.”

Another choice value searching for, he provides: Porsche Energetic Suspension Administration, a system based mostly round mechanically adjusting dampers. “I wasn’t very within the PASM suspension till I owned one in all these with the system,” he says. “It’s actually implausible and provides the automobile two distinctive personalities for street and monitor.”

As with the 911 of the identical period, the Cayman’s engine featured an IMS bearing that may’t be serviced. However LN Engineering has some excellent news: “The incidence of failure with a 2006-’08 M96 or M97 engine as discovered within the Boxster, Cayman and 911 which have the bigger (however non-serviceable) IMS is extremely unlikely. Finest estimate is a few 1% failure price.” LN Engineering recommends eradicating the grease seal to supply higher lubrication for the bearing. The corporate additionally presents an IMS improve equipment, however putting in it requires engine disassembly. 

Additionally just like the 911, the Cayman and Boxster obtained new engines for 2009: no extra intermediate shafts, together with a transfer to direct injection. “General, these engines are actually implausible as they addressed nearly each shortcoming of the M96/97 engines, together with the deletion of the intermediate shaft–cam chains are pushed instantly from the crankshaft,” Weaver explains. “In truth, that engine kind works so properly that the 718 four-cylinder engine is just the identical six-cylinder engine much less two cylinders, with bores adjusted for displacement.”

Right this moment’s Cayman costs can differ a bit.

Cayman Skilled Suggestions
Don Weaver
EBS Racing

• Have a technician learn out the pc for random faults attributed to the assorted methods within the automobile. Learn out the engine over-rev historical past as properly. 
• The engine needs to be fairly dry. Have the oil filter housing eliminated and inspected for ferrous particles by the particular person performing the PPI. 
• The IMS present in all M96 Caymans would be the bigger kind that Porsche labored into manufacturing in the midst of 2005. These can fail however don’t fail usually in comparison with both of the sooner iterations. As a result of Porsche elevated the dimensions of the bearing a lot, it’s not really upgradable and not using a full engine teardown.
• In my eyes, bore scoring is a much bigger problem with the Caymans–particularly the three.4-liter S–than the IMS by far. We proceed to see clients come to us with this problem usually. 
• The nice factor is we now have options that make any such bore scoring a complete non-issue as soon as addressed. Nevertheless, this necessitates a whole engine rebuild, which isn’t in any respect cheap, however you even have the chance to make different upgrades and efficiency enhancements whereas doing so. All of us want a Cayman constructed to three.8 liters with CNC port work, cams, and so on., proper?
• The perfect vehicles are nearly at all times those with detailed histories: a lot of receipts overlaying repairs and a document of standard upkeep.
• All late-model Porsche vehicles, together with the 987s, don’t require any extra upkeep than different trendy vehicles on the street immediately. Common oil adjustments–a minimum of yearly–are a should. Engine air and cabin filters have pretty lengthy service lives, and spark plugs go tens of hundreds of miles. Coolant and brake fluids needs to be swapped out each few years to make sure security and reliability. Not one of the valve changes, caps, rotors, and so on., of the outdated vehicles, and the pc is absolutely self-tuning.
• There are some things that can merely put on out over time, such because the suspension management arms and shocks/struts, water pump, shift lever bushings and cables and, in fact, brake parts. Additionally, ignition coils can crack and fail, inflicting random misfires and a check-engine gentle. These vehicles appear to be delicate to oxygen sensor growing old as properly, in order that’s one thing to bear in mind. 
• Damaged and worn inside trim could be pricey to interchange. The local weather management toggles are recognized to lose their black coloration, however replacements are actually out there at a good value. 
• There are a couple of uncommon 987s working round with PCCBs–ceramic brake discs–and substitute parts are astronomically priced, so beware!